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Behavioral Event Interviewing for Salespeople

April 13th, 2011 by The ECI Team

The importance of using structured interview questions such as behavioral event formatted questions cannot be understated.  This holds true particularly when hiring salespeople who, as we know, drive our business.

It is highly important to have a structured process regardless of the size of your company.  However, the importance grows exponentially as the size of your sales force increases.  Think about it, the more people you have and are looking to hire, the more opportunity there is for variation of style to affect the end result.   Adding structure to your process will help you minimize the effect of the varied styles and preferences of interviewers you have.  This is important because the interview in and of itself is a subjective process and this subjectivity can reduce the effectiveness.  When we reduce the effectiveness of our interview, we reduce the quality of our hire.

The salesperson is one whom we can presuppose will interview with more panache than most other positions.  Therefore, we should step up our questions to ensure we gather the best possible content from them.  If they are truly a salesperson, they will easily sell us on their merits, regardless of whether they are a fit for our organization or the role we’re interviewing for.

Behavioral event interview questions as a part of a structured interview process should be based on specific instances you want to see performed on the job.  Therefore, compiling a list of basic tenets that are important for the role in advance of interviewing is and excellent practice.  Then, simply base the questions off of those tenets.

Structuring the questions is easy.  All good behavioral event interview questions include 3 basic components:

  1. Situation/Task – here the interviewee should be requested to provide a situation.  This can be either hypothetical or an actual past experience
  2. Action – here the interviewee is requested to provide the action they took in the situation.  This provides the interviewer with a view into how the interviewee behaves
  3. Result – here the interviewer is interested in  seeing what actual results the candidate has achieved

For example, if you’re interviewing a sales representative for your organization a good question would be: “Please describe your optimal sales call.  What does such a conversation look like?  What questions did/would you ask?  What would/did you achieve as a result of this conversation?”  A candidate’s response to this question would provide you with their sales style.  Do they prefer a challenging customer?  Do they prefer a friendly customer?  Do they prefer a quick sale?  You will also see what type of results they are looking for from their interactions.  You will gain insight into the types of conversations they are prepared to have.  You will begin to see a great deal into the potential fit they have to the role you want to fill.

Remember, a good sales person will sell themselves well and therefore they are likely to look good in an interview.  It is important that you be prepared with good questions that will help you to dive deeper into how they will perform for your organization.  After all, first impressions are lasting, but they do not tell us all we need to know, particularly when we are talking about the risk of a bad hire!

Are Pharmaceutical Reps Exempt or Non-Exempt?

March 2nd, 2011 by The ECI Team

A recent article in the news described the court case at Novartis where sales representatives were pressing for overtime, given the structure of their accountabilities.  This has been a topic we have reviewed a number of times for our clients and which rarely lands on the same recommendation.  Pharma companies generally pay on business results – marketshare,  marketshare change and sometimes number of scripts.  The job itself of the sales rep historically has been one of narrowly defined accountabilities, which are often assessed by reach and frequency metrics.

In those cases, the department of labor and the courts have an easy time classifying a role as non-exempt in status.  The rep is required to make an average 7 – 9 customer visits per day, to deliver two or more key product messages when the opportunity arises to speak with a physician or other professional, and then must ensure that sufficient samples are available for the prescriber to dole out product, based on patient needs.  Because of the heavy focus on measured tasking (even though it is difficult to directly link the use of the product to the message delivered by the rep), the job assessor tends to say that very little is left to the rep’s own choice and that the job is pretty clearly defined in the various systems used to monitor performance.  When the job is clearly defined and leaves little to the choice of the performer, then it is classified as a non-exempt position.  There are a lot more standards that are applied to make this classification, but at the end of the day, freedom of choice on what is done and levels of decision making are at the root of the classification.

Enter the legal department at the pharma company.  In the last couple of years, there has been a strong push in job descriptions to place language around independently developing strategy, establishing priorities for the territory in terms of selling activities, and establishing one’s own daily schedule.  Using the word professional to elevate the role of rep to business “owner”  who is accountable to develop key contacts and manage a broad range of relationships has been an attempt to elevate the expectations of the role.  Somehow, these added wordings don’t quite do enough to elevate the role to the exempt level, however.  The accountabilities are still the same – see the docs, deliver the message, influence drug of choice, and leverage the relationship to access other medical providers.

What is interesting to me is the fact that with the rapidly changing landscape of the healthcare environment, the addition of so much more complexity in healthcare providers, formulary positioning, specialty pharmacies, large IDNs, care provider networks and institutions has made the job of sales rep much more difficult.  Reps have to know the clinical and treatment aspects of their products better than most physicians.  They need to understand how to help the doctor use the product with patients whose access to the drug is limited by their medical coverage or geographic location and care networks.   I doubt that the old reach and frequency model would even work effectively today in many of these situations, outside of some less sophisticated marketplaces that are not as heavily impacted by managed care practices.

A new customer development model that has emerged requires the representative to assess all of the local conditions and to devise a strategy that best addresses these conditions, while aligning to company goals, the compliance and regulatory environment, and physician preferences.  This hardly looks like a non-exempt position when you increase the complexity of the work to this level and note the amount of variation in responsibilities and approach that will is needed to perform the role properly.  Given the amount of technical clinical knowledge needed, the in-depth strategy setting and innovation required to succeed and then the amount of collaboration and networking expected, measuring success is not a simple matter of measuring number of calls, delivering the approved marketing messages, and devising the most efficiency call route.

In recent visits to the field with our client’s reps, we have seen reps changing the treatment preferences of surgeons, helping to gain approval for treatment for non-formulary drugs by establishing pre-approval systems in physician offices, and a much higher presence of medical science liaisons providing targeted messaging to pave the way for treatment protocols into the future.  The level of work being done today, which is surely indicative of the future requirements of the position, is more consultative than it is selling work.  The further the role moves in the direction of consulting, where expertise and counsel are the primary services or products provided to customers, the more difficult it will be to classify rep jobs as non-exempt.

Interesting that this case was settled in the current marketplace in the manner that it was.  Pharma companies are going to need to redefine the rep’s accountabilities, given all the complexity their people are facing today, and to reposition the rep’s defined efforts from purveyors of product to business consultants.   And those reach and frequency models will need to fall by the wayside, too, since they really do not apply to what most high level sales reps are doing today.

I believe this is an indicator of more change coming in the pharmaceutical industry. We will be seeing different sales models, new ways of getting information out to the medical community, and providing value added processes to help offices gain access to treatments for patients.

Developing Predictive Selection Criteria

November 13th, 2009 by The ECI Team

At ECI, we have been devising selection criteria for many years to identify people who will be top performing sales people.  The trick to identifying predictive, reliable criteria is to make sure you have a good linear relationship between the results that top performers deliver and the results that bottom performers deliver.   Top performers deliver better results and bottom performers deliver poorer results, so we pay the good guys lots more than the guys who are less successful.  Sounds logical?  Well, for many companies, it isn’t so simple any more. Read more…

Get Ready for Changes in Interviewing!

November 6th, 2009 by The ECI Team

The most read topic on The ECI Blog is about behavioral event interviewing and how to properly answer these questions.  Many people are becoming very familiar with the behavioral event interviewing process and are getting coaching prior to their interviews from their placement counselors.  This, of course, has the effect of masking an individual candidate’s true potentials.

For many years in Europe, employers have been inviting potential candidates to simulation workshops as a part of the selection process.  This is a very time-consuming and costly step, but considering that the employment dismissal regulations are so much more stringent in many countries than they are in the US,  the process provides real understanding of a candidate’s real capabilities. Read more…

How to Hire Without Getting Sued

May 6th, 2009 by The ECI Team

I used to do a lot of seminars and speaking engagements for various groups on topics relating to human capital.  One of the more requested topics was the title of this post.  There are a few good practices to be sure to consider in order to avoid suits from your candidates as you hire new people.  And hiring is beginning to increase!  This is the good news.

The bad news is that some new regulations have impacted the hiring environment and you need to be aware of these as you set about finding that long-awaited new hire. Read more…

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